I remember hearing about some CIA people who had somehow helped the right-wing Minute Men in Texas to get arms, originally intended for the invasion. Among the Dallas individuals and companies engaged in supplying arms to Cuban exiles and the Minute Men might have been the ones occupying the building at 411 Elm Street. Mr. CORNWELL - How many of them were newspaper or magazine reporters or involved in at least the news business ? I am a reporter there. Shelleys second claim was that he joined the CIA. Mae Brussell showed copies of this document to the editors of Globe. I will ask if you will stand and be sworn. * Assassination Archives and Research Center leads the fight in federal court for full JFK disclosure. Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? [10] Larry Ray Harris at the age of 44 died in an automobile accident on October 5, 1996. Walther was sure they were not as high as the sixth floor. James B. Wilcott was a CIA accountant who disbursed CIA station funds in Tokyo, Japan. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. CORNWELL - Is there any chance that that record stil exists? Mr. WILCOTT - Anything they had there would have -- sometimes they used as many as two or three different cryptonyms and they would have -- it all depended on how far they wanted to isolate it from the original source, from the original source as to where the project was run. Mr. CORNWELL - When was that? Charles Givens, like Oswald, had left the building after the assassination. They appear to be members of the security staff described by Joe Bergin, Jr. Glazes letters add a further detail that they were members of the FBI. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Can you give the Committee the names of any persons who might corroborate your allegation? When I got to the phone, two of the lines were lit up. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. SILENCED! Yet their new location was seven miles south of the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35 at 8301 Ambassador Row. Mr. PREYER - That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. My next call was to the Alternative Information Network founded by Doug Kellner and Frank Morrow. Mr. WILCOTT - It is a little bit east of Oakland, California. While working as a journalist in Dallas, Tx. Mr. WILCOTT - I can't remember, sir. 2 AM, Nov. 23. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. Mr. WILCOTT - When I first started speaking, both my wife and I discussed it and we felt that we should be speaking out about not only Oswald but some other things. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know how to answer that. The stark contrast in the quality of scholarship between the two books was one factor convincing him that there was a huge conspiracy behind the assassination. Supposedly, he fell asleep at the wheel, or committed suicide, when he rammed into the back of a semi-truck. Mr. WILCOTT - They never revealed that to me, sir, as far as their relations with Oswald. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? Mr. DODD - Just one second, then. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was just a cryptonym, and it could refer to a person, or it could refer to something else and I would have no way of knowing what a cryptonym referred to. For many years he assisted organizations that helped veterans, monitored the nuclear power industry, and worked to ensure basic human rights. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why has it been difficult? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have opinions. In November 1963, on the Friday before Thanksgiving, President Kennedy was riding in a Lincoln convertible rolling through the streets of Dallas. Mr. CORNWELL - Did they request that you leave? Mr. WILCOTT - Certainly, from May of 1957 to January of 1960, I was in the pre-fab building on the Potomac in finance. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And for purposes of clarification, now, if Oswald was already dead at the time that you went to this book, why did you go back to examine the book? Upon exiting the elevator, he saw a short hallway. ", and they might look it over and retype the accounting for funds for their project and, you know, make changes that they might think were in their interest to do. Mr. WILCOTT - Certainly with George Breen, XXXXXXXXXXX the circle of social friends that we had. Dr. King was killed by one rifle shot fired from in front of him. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Who were your friends that you discussed this with? Mr. PREYER - Under our committee rules, Mr. Wilcott, a witness is entitled, at the conclusion of the questioning, to make a five-minute statement if he wishes or to give a fuller explanation of any of his answers; so that at this time we make that five minutes available to you if you care to elaborate or say anything further. All that I knowand the attending dead endswere passed along to a researcher and author in Dallas a few years ago. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that opinion? Mr. WILCOTT - Approximately two years, sir. [20] Before going up the stairs, Truly paused to tell Shelley to guard the stairs and elevators to make sure no one uses them.[21]. That would have put it into 1964? Mr. CORNWELL - It is your testimony, as I understand it, the first time that you spoke about the Oswald agency matter outside of the CIA was after you left the CIA; is that correct? After standing on the front steps to see the shooting of the president, Frazier did something odd, about which he seemed to contradict himself about in an interview with the Sixth Floor Museum in 2013. Mr. WILCOTT - Not that I know of. Needless to say, she never did wear that dress. In 1947, the year when the CIA was formed, the Dallas city directory lists William Shelley as a clerk for the Hugh Perry Book Depository (the old name for the Texas School Book Depository), and that he had a room at 515 Martinique Avenue. [28] A roll call of warehouse employees seemed to indicate that Oswald was indeed absent. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, there were several other incidents that I believe could possibly be somehow connected with CIA. Mr. PREYER - I understand this might be a good place for us to break and go and vote, so that we will take another recess for about ten minutes. He was traveling from his mothers house in Ohio to Georgia. Did you contact any CIA officer or employee with respect to the secrecy oath and discuss with them whether or not you should be permitted to discuss these matters outside of the Agency? He was in the military service over there, and so you feel be was a double agent who was trained while he was in the military by the CIA, and you mentioned he was given a Russian course. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And the first time you alleged in public this allegation was in 1968? Please try again. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the name of the book? In 1984, they began sending tapes of their programs to public access channels in Dallas and San Antonio and then to other cities around the country, hence the name of the umbrella organization, the Alternative Information Network. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you recall whether or not you used that in the process of looking through the 30-day book you described? Mr. DODD - Am I to presume that you told your wife of the conversation you had with this case officer at the time it occurred? Its also includes links to many hours of online videos you can watch on the evidence covered. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon, includes free international wireless delivery via. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was he a CIA employee? My actions were less courageous than they were the result of being nave. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, in a speculative manner. Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. I discussed it with my friends and the people that I was associating with socially. There is a vast literature on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, . Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to find any indication in any of the XXXXXXX Station's records that Oswald was, in fact, a CIA agent? He had keen interests in history and weather, and much of his writing related to these. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When was that? Yet judging by the disgust in his voice when he said at the police station Im just a patsy, he probably did not know that he would be the one accused of killing the president. Mr. PREYER - Let me interrupt. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So basically, you checked only one of the advance books, is that correct? Mr. SAWYER - Well, what were your antiwar activities that you refer to? Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, did the CIA ever conduct an investigation into your allegation that Oswald was an agent? His first day on the job was October 29, 1945. Mr. DODD - And it includes the information that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - Not at this time. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir; he was described to me as an, agent and I was led to believe, from the conversations that he was an agent. I spoke to groups in their homes and I spoke to groups in the Peace and Freedom Party and I was with the Peace and Freedom Party for several years. As mentioned, this woman, her husband, and young child disappeared within hours after my interview. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many months after the assassination was this? The memo said that Oswalds FBI informant number was S172 and that his CIA number was 110669. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, from May of 1957 to January of 1960 - We think our readers would be interested in reading his evidence./p>, (Click here to open the document in another page.). Mr. GOLDSMITH - Upon your memory and the list that your brought with you today, will you tell the Committee the names of the CIA Case Officers who you remember working XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? Mr. WILCOTT - I can't remember the exact persons. Mr. WILCOTT - Usually I threw them away at the end of the day or once in a while I would put it in -- I had a little folder where I kept personal things and it is possible I could have out it in there, but certainly it would have bee destroyed when I left. "I was standing on the triple underpass at the time and was wounded by a fragment that bounced off the pavement," Tague, now 77, told ABC News. Considering the far-reaching extent of control over so many occupations in American society, the CIA could very well have infiltrated the schoolbook depositories and their associated publishers. ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY . Afterwards, Joe visited him in his office and could hardly believe the change that came over him. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe our full strength was around XXXXXXX and we never actually had that many, I don't think. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't really have anything and maybe I would just like to say I think it is time we got this thing cleared up; and I think for the good of the country and for good of the people I think it is really time that all of the facts were brought out and the people really get the facts. But I was intrigued -- and it may have been in the transcription but you were in XXXXX as financial disbursement officer -- is it your testimony that you were told by a case officer that you had disbursed funds for an Oswald project? * 2017 JFK has a detailed guide to the massive JFK disclosures scheduled for October 2017. I have no further questions. Mr. GOLDSMITH - excuse me, just answer the question very generally, without referring to anything right now, and please describe generally what your responsibilities were as a finance officer. [27] Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust p. 115. This we concluded from putting various pieces of information together. Mr. WILCOTT - My current one that I had on my counter. Below is an obituary from the Austin American-Statesman published on Dec. 15, 2019. House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Washington, D. C. Mine was a happenstance meeting and short, casual friendship with a man who appeared to have fallen through the cracks. As Rose points out, this is a bit odd also, since most of the building witnesses were taken to the sheriffs office, which was much closer to the TSBD than police headquarters. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Write to Editor@jfkfacts.org. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you know, in 1963, what type of security precautions the Warren Commission had for conducting its investigation? From April of 1965 to April of 1966, I was at Miami Station in finance, and I was handling the staff payroll. It must have been puzzling to Glaze, as it is to us reading his letters, why a government agency would be providing security for a privately-owned company. By the way, I am a Mr.not a Ms.as the letter from Mr. Blakey indicates. We should not jump to conclusions, since we do not know the entity that was actually paying him. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. In 1938, he became a salesman for Scott Foresman. Mr. WILCOTT - I have been trying to talk about this thing and other things for the last ten years. Every station was divided up -- at least every class station was divided up into areas, where we would have a China, branch, Korea branch and XXXXXXXX branch and SR branch and SR satellite. However, if you received this information two or three months after the assassination, at a time that Oswald was already dead and had been dead for two or three months, what purpose would have been served by checking records that were only 30 days old? exactly for sure. I was up to my neck before I realized it. Oversized boxes were also seen by Joe Bergin, Jr. when he visited his father at the 411 Elm Street building. Mr. WILCOTT - Not directly, no, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir; at Oakland Technical High School, at the invitation of -- the social department asked me if I wanted to speak and I said yes, and so I spoke to two classes at Oakland Technical High School. Mr. GOLDSMITH - As a matter of routine, there would be that reference? Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. He was still there when Garner retired in 1986. Mr. WILCOTT - Not publicly. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And a copy of the relevant House Resolutions? Mr. WILCOTT - No. It was about XXX I think, was our actual roster was. In addition, all of my interview notes and tapes inexplicably disappeared. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I would get calls and they would say "We know all about you," shooting a machine gun into the About four or five years after the assassination, she said, Scott Foresman and another publisher called Southwestern decided to sever ties with the Texas School Book Depository. Mr. WILCOTT - I really didn't think that the Warren Commission was out to really get at the facts, and I am not, saying that they purposely did anything, because I don't know, and maybe they did or maybe they didn't, but certainly, they didn't impress me as really trying to scrutinize the evidence that there was. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't understand. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1968. suspicious that many of the other things that happened may have had as its source the CIA. Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you discuss it with anyone? Many notes and gifts, often created by him, are left for us as a tribute to his kindness and love. Mr. DODD - As a point of information, are people who work within the Agency fairly careful in their language in describing what the category of certain people are who work for the Agency? The two new employees were administered a written questionnaire asking about their opinions of current topics of the day, especially social issues. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, did I ask you to prepare a list of CIA Case Officers working at XXXXXXXXX Station in 1963? One day Frank O'Connor, the director of the program, called me into his office and he said that he had had a discussion with the public safety commissioner and that the public safety commissioner told him that my phone was bugged, that my house was under surveillance and that a Federal indictment was coming down on me at any time, that he had talked to the mayor and the mayor decided not to fire me but asked me to sign a resignation form which he would date the day previous to the date that the Federal indictment came down. The building is a large, one-story, concrete tilt-up, ideal for storing and moving huge quantities of material goods with forklifts and palettes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And finally, as I said at the beginning is it fair to say that you are here voluntarily today? Confirming these observations were two more spectators, Ronald Fischer and Robert Edwards, who saw a man with light-colored hair and a light-colored open-neck shirt at a window on the fifth floor. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, the payments that were made especially to substations like Oswald's was operated -- it was a substation of the XXXXXXXX station, and they had one in XXXXXX and they had one in XXXXXXXXX-- and it may be six months or even a year after the intial allocation that the final accounting for those funds were submitted, and they would operate out of revolving funds or out of their own personal funds in many cases. Mr. Wilcott, maybe we can expedite this somewhat by asking you this: Do you have any first-hand knowledge or information as to a link between the failed Bay of Pigs operation and the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy? Mr. WILCOTT - Very briefly it did, yes, in what was finally published. Mr. GOLDSMITH - If the agency, in fact, was run on the "need-to-know" basis, how would you account for so many people supposedly knowing that Oswald was an agent? I was scared until the Carter Administration. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. I believe it was more in a speculative realm. But you apparently indicated that you feel there was a direct connection between the Bay of Pigs operation and the assassination of the President. Read instantly on your browser with Kindle for Web. The other one was the Lone Star School Book Depository, also located in the city of Dallas. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have. Mr. CORNWELL - On that occasion to whom did you speak? As a CIA employee, Wilcott stated under oath that many people told him that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of the CIA after the assassination had occurred. about it & possibly do a story on it. One of the aforementioned employees (whose name I cannot recall) stated that when she went to work for Bill Shelly at the school book depository in the early 1970s she was interviewed for the job by some type of government agents who asked if she had been recruited by the F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. 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