For the avoidance of doubt, where the Royal Armouries owns the IPR in any Content You are not permitted to exercise any of the rights 6 ROW 29 HOLE HEAT SHIELD RIVETED TO I can see some soldier or Marine examining his newly issued M12 and thinking, "I'll be having one of these beauties when I get home!'. In 1897 Browning designed one of the most famous rifles of the American West for Winchester, the Winchester Model 1897 lever-action repeating rifle. The standard M1917 rifle bayonet worked just fine. Combat Shotguns Message Board. IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO WAIT AT LEAST 16 WEEKS DO NOT PLACE AN ORDER. The As noted this beautiful Winchester Trench Shotgun comes with an original Winchester marked Model 1917 blued bayonet and leather scabbard. This licence applies to information that is the copyright of the Board of Trustees of the Armouries. Like the Model 97 Trench Gun, the Model 12 Trench Gun used the M1917 bayonet. Remove the 3 securing screws from the attachment and slide the bayonet attachment on the barrel until the 9/32 stud on the end of the magazine plug goes into the hole in the rear of the leg on the attachment and the rear of the leg is flush with the face of the magazine plug. The left side of the stock is stamped with the Ordnance final inspection mark that consists of the initials "G.H.D." We do not make parts for repro guns or guns not listed on this site. It is said that the German army actually appealed to The Hague to have this weapon outlawed. The reason the Model of 1917 rifle bayonet was selected for use with the trench gun in the first place was to simplify logistics. The reason the Model of 1917 rifle bayonet was selected for use with the trench gun in the first. gain. The 'Trench Gun' is the most famous variant of the Winchester Model 97. Great price, great shotgun, buds layaway is amazing. The Information is licensed as is and the Royal Armouries excludes all representations, warranties, obligations and liabilities in relation to the Information to the maximum extent permitted by law. Now You can get a one shot extension for this and they make a bayonet mount that fits perfectly. A small Ordnance "Shell and Flame" insignia is stamped on the top of the barrel just ahead of the receiver. I mentioned in another thread I was going to order the reproduction M-12 Trench Gun Bayonet Attachment / Heat shield offered by East Taylor LLC. For Stevens and Ithaca slide the attachment on the barrel until the end of bayonet lug (round stud that the bayonet ring slides over) is even with the muzzle end of the barrel. Use as a verb, means doing any act which is restricted by copyright or database right, whether in the original medium or in any other medium, and includes without limitation distributing, copying, adapting, modifying as may be technically necessary to use it in a different mode or format. If you then tilt the gun to where the barrel is vertical (muzzle up) and press the unlocking catch, the bolt will slowly and smoothly slide fully open under it's own weight. This Model 12 trench gun in the Winchester ammo booth, for instance, pulled my attention away from all the new stuff as soon as I walked in. The stock is fitted with a black, checkered, hard rubber buttplate with the encircled Winchester logo in the center and a parkerized sling swivel. RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. He has it looped over his shoulder and hung under his arm . SINCE THESE ARE MADE IN HOUSE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN QUALITY, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO PRODUCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITHIN THE SHIPPING TIME FRAME. They are of good quality. the rights granted to you under this licence will terminate automatically. "U.S." and flaming bomb marked receiver, "G.H.D./crossed cannons" marked buttstock. Comes with 2 wood screws. heat shield you want attached to the Seems to be very well made, and looks to be an accurate copy of the original though I've only seen pictures of originals. The 4 row 19 hole shield Model 12- 12GA-2 3/4 Cham CYL" (There is more writing forward of the Logo, but it is covered by the heat shield.I assume this to be patent information) Top of the barrel has an ordinance bomb stamp and a P on top of a W in a circle. Model: 12 Trench Gun Serial Number: 1018679 Barrel Length: 20 Inch Chambers: Very Fine Condition: 96% Overall Metal Condition: 97% Overall Wood Condition: 96% Overall Bore Condition: Very Fine Or Better Barrel Type: 20Inch Military Action: Pump Gauge Info: 12 Gauge Stock: Military Marked Butt Pad: Original Butt Plate Finish: Blued Controller may, from time to time, issue new versions of the Non-Commercial Government Licence. Copyright 2000-2022 Machinegunboards.com SINCE THESE ARE MADE IN HOUSE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN QUALITY, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO PRODUCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITHIN THE SHIPPING TIME FRAME. There was not a good dedicated carrier for shotgun shells at this time . Please specify which heat shield you want attached to the bayonet lug when ordering. It is capable of 'slam-firing', a technique where the trigger is held as the gun is pumped, resulting in a devastating rapid spray of 12 gauge buckshot. The top of the barrel is marked with the U.S. (flaming bomb) proof followed by the Winchester oval "WP" proof at the breech. The 1897 Model was available with different barrel lengths, different calibres of 12 and 16 gauge and as a solid or take-down frame. The 16-gauge guns had a standard barrel length of 71 cm (28 in), while 12-gauge guns were furnished with 76 cm (30 in) length barrels. Some special models ( Heavy Duck) are chambered for 3 inch shells and have a slightly larger barrel diameter. and, where possible, provide a link to this licence; ensure that any onward licensing of the Information for example when combined with other information is for Non-Commercial purposes only; ensure that you do not use the Information in a way that suggests any official status or that the Royal Armouries endorses you or your use of the Information; ensure that you do not mislead others or misrepresent the Information or its source; ensure that your use of the Information does not breach the Data Protection Act 1998 or the Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 2003. The demand of used 12 TRENCH GUN shotgun's has not changed over the past 12 months. You can look inside the barrel channel of your repro and note how shallow the barrel grooves will need to be. It is located slightly forward of where it is located on an original. Added on edit: If you like, I can measure the length of the muzzle protruding from the mount of my unissued M12 so that you can get this dimension right. I wonder if it might be due to the higher chrome or nickle content in the steel used? Oct 20, 2022: The current wait list for Model 12 Trench Guns is open. The serial number of this model indicates production was probably in 1944 and was just before the Winchester factory switched from a blued to the parkerized style finish. Looking forward to seeing the finished project. Further context, best practice and guidance can be found in the UK Government Licensing Framework section on The National Archives Website. Oh and sorry for necro-posting, I'm finding lil' info about the repros. Please specify which ***, INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR BAYONET ATTACHMENT. Winchester Model 12 Shotgun & 1897 Trench Gun Heat Shield Bayonet Lug Mount NOS | eBay Back to home page Listed in category: Sporting Goods Hunting Gun Parts Shotgun Parts Share Description Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. We are now offering the famous Winchester Model 12, 12 Ga Trench Gun using original Winchester Model 12, 12 Ga shotguns. We sell them on our web site. It for the shot gun ammo, or spare m1 ammo? Here's the proper repro sling for your gun. We buy decent used Winchester shotguns which are then totally torn down, cleaned, worn parts replaced, re-blued, reassembled and tested for proper function. ***, INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR BAYONET ATTACHMENT The entry of the U.S.A into the War in 1917, saw many Winchester 1897 'Trench Guns' being issued for service. SINCE THESE ARE MADE IN HOUSE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN QUALITY, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO PRODUCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITHIN THE SHIPPING TIME FRAME. JRB's example is an M1917 Type 1. LET ME SELL YOUR GUNS!!! The original Model 12 trench gun barrel is the same diameter as the Model 97. which is not otherwise permitted by law. Also will help keep moisture / rain from seeping under and causing rust . The Trench Shotgun features the distinctive, original heatshield/bayonet adapter with thick sling swivel and nickel-plated front sight bead. I Have This Old Gun Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun. identity documents such as the British Passport. Id like to get the right bayonet for it. No returns on layaways. Very good, with 30% of the faded blue finish, showing areas of gray patina, bright edge wear and light handling marks. This very scarce World War 2 Winchester Model 12 Trench Shotgun with factory parkerized finish was manufactured in the middle of 1942. For Winchesters only, if your magazine plug does not have a 9/32 stud on the end of it you will need to replace it with one that does in order to support your magazine tube. We buy decent used Winchester shotguns which are then totally torn down, cleaned, worn parts replaced, re-blued, reassembled and tested for proper function. As noted this beautiful Winchester Trench Shotgun comes with an original Winchester marked Model 1917 blued bayonet and leather scabbard. A collector friend told me there were separate Model 1917 bayonets intended just for the trench gun. Some chipping is present on the bayonet grip panels, with a heavy protective coat of varnish on the metal. The 'Trench Gun' differed from the standard shotgun as it had a 51 cm (20 in) barrel and bayonet lug in order for the Model 1917 bayonet to be attached. SLING SWIVEL AND 3 ATTACHMENT We buy decent used Winchester shotguns which are then totally torn down, cleaned, worn parts replaced, re-blued, reassembled and tested for proper function. Don't know, but this just might say good things about the quality of the steel used in the repros. 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Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Winchester Trench gun heat shield 1897 & model 12 shotgun m1917 bayonet USMC at the best online prices at eBay! The latter more common and allowing the barrel and slide assembly to be removed from the frame, making them easier to pack into a short case. This licence to make Non-Commercial Use of Our Content and/or Commercial Use and Non Commercial use of Our Crown Copyright Content along with Our licence These are important conditions of this licence and if you fail to comply with them or use the information other than for Non-Commercial purposes the rights granted to you under this licence, or any similar licence granted by the Licensor, will end automatically. The barrel, receiver, magazine and handguard/bayonet adapter have the gray-green parkerized finish found on Winchester M1 rifles and M1 carbines. 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