Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. Suspect Richard Allen arrested in 2017 killings of 2 teens in Indiana, Four reasons a credit-card balance transfer may be a bad idea, Dont let paying for a funeral add to your grief, Beware of these pitfalls when planning your own funeral. Its too convenient that BP appraised the house, like you said, she is connected to 6 murdered childrenMy theory? It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. Local Indiana man arrested, charged in 2017 Delphi murders of teens. the detective asked. So if the search started technically in the dark on the 13th, the actual time they had when they could really see anything was from 9 AM to 12 PM on the 14th. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. Discovery: February 14, 2017 Problem is that CSI cop NM was the one providing the alibi for Mr. X, so that theory doesnt work. Until his arrest last week on two counts of first-degree murder, Allen, 50, had no prior criminal record. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. DELPHI, Ind. Trexler has prior DUI infractions to his name, police records show. Press J to jump to the feed. We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. They certainly have my appreciation. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. The two best friends went missing while on a hike through the historic trails Delphi, Ind. Pictures 1, 2, 3, and 5 show the area during and after the search. Or Libby was going to tell all and bring many people down from previous insurance/appraisal scams? Allen, 50, has been. And thats not even the start of the weirdness. I'm wondering if the families were even told about what the scene itself disclosed, or given any details about the crime scene such as; how the girls' bodies were left at the crime scene. Basically nobody in town except a few people who dont like him thinks he did it. Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. The Murder Sheet Podcastfirst published the documents, and I-Team 8 has confirmed with a police source that the document is authentic. Our goal is to find anybody else involved in this heinous crime. He may indeed have been a hunter who worked for Tyson. A grifter is literally a criminal fraudster and he is breaking the law. DELPHI, Ind. I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. "That is correct.". Im sure it will come out. I've hardly seen anyone speak about the search party. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. Either LE or coroner: It was all over by 3:30 PM.. Hi Robert. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. The officer seeks clearance and lets the male through the cordon. He wore layers because he was living largely outside. Ok, thats so crazy that its almost impossible to believe its true. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. I am very curious to know what you think people are getting wrong as to Chadwells behavior and videos (both are which are undeniably creepy). And you guys have not given up on us. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. Regardless of whether or not members of the search party were told not to report what they saw at the crime scene, if it was as bizarre as it sounds, I dont see how anyone could keep it to themselves. Suspicious as Hell if you ask me. The agent also confirms the girls were followed by the suspect on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, and that there were no visible signs of a struggle or fight. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. Love your writing and insights. All that is known about the murders is that the girls' bodies were "posed," and undisclosed trophies were taken from each victim. Thanks for posting. The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. See how people are reading too much into this guy? The inevitable questions arise. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. The suspect was not someone the families knew, Mike Patty said. A RELATIVE of a suspect in the Delphi murders was taken into custody earlier this month as investigators concluded a weeks-long search in a local river potentially linked to the unsolved case. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now. Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of an unsolved double homicide. Previously:'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. Allen's attorney, Bradley Rozzi, argued in favor of releasing the documents. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (54?) We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. Mr. X was on the same team BUT was on the other side of the creek at the time, same for Erskin. Because sometimes searchers get lost too. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". What's the procedure when bodies are located? This is one reason I dont think JBC is BG. LE did not say it was over by 3 pm-ish. He has not been charged or accused of any wrongdoing in the deaths of Abby and Libby. Allen was taken into custody on Oct. 26 by detectives on the task force after probable cause allowed it. ISP's tip line related to the case will remain open so the public can share information about the suspect or others possibly involved in the case. Any theories? Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the killzone if not at night then at least when the lights came back on. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? But get this. Also who said this crime was over quickly? Watch on. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. "Let me ask you - why would you, after you failed the polygraph about knowing about the Delphi investigation, come home, delete your Snapchat and your Instagram, which you used to communicate with Libby, and then you searched, how long does DNA last?" A rose will bloom, it then will fade. In the audio, police announced, a male voice appears to say Down the hill. Officials offered a download of the audio and asked anyone who recognized the voice to send in a tip. Stores would have been stocked with them that week. He catfished them by pretending to be a cute 19 year old boy. "I don't want to put too much stock into it until I hear something from law enforcement," she added. That is very interesting. Not validated via LE, but its a popular rumor that police officer NM was the one supplying the apparently fake alibi for Mr. X. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. I havent seen the tape but a friend saw it and she said he had a huge smirk on his face the whole time. Those four words have been used by family and community members to keep attention on the case as it remained unsolved. In a news conference, Indiana State Police shared Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested Wednesday and charged on two counts of murder during a court hearing two days later. Hes just an ordinary AFC. The multi-agency task force working on the Delphi case is certain that the new sketch accurately depicts the face of the man who killed Abby and Libby. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? The blunt nose and mouth/smile, as well as the shading. Just a thought. True crime podcasters investigating the brutal 2017 murders of two young girls in Delphi, Indiana, say they spotted law enforcement conducting a search of waters close to where their bodies were . News outlets throughout the state, including Gannett, the Hoosier State Press Association and the Indiana Broadcasters Association, filed a brief Monday in favor of the documents' release. Yeah, I can do a post, but in the post Im going to say hes not it because hes not BG. Am I expecting too much? Just a guess. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Im pretty sure Chadwell is a hunter and fisherman. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. We now have two search party members who are backing up some of these bizarre allegations. Thanks for your work and your blog. Regardless of what I could happen to "find" by searching as I stated further above in a post, if anyone needed help in my area I would surely help! Yet somehow they didnt come across the bodies until over half a day after the search party started. Why else do you think Carter would have said those things? We must continue to be mindful of their surviving family members and the entire Carroll County community who are affected by this investigation., Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, The FBI has provided assistance to the Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriffs Office in this investigation and will continue to help in any way we can to see justice done for Libby and Abby. That bear appears to be a Valentines stuffed animal! I know this all describes Mr. X, but I still think these same things, whether its him or someone else. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. And that he also told us that they suspect Mr. X in Evansdale too, right? (WLS) -- There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. I dont even know what that means. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. Thanks for your response: appreciate that. Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. The FBI agent does say Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Only that there were stuffed animals. The public can see the truth of the facts to support this case," he argued, adding that the public also can assess through the documents how their tax dollars were spent in the nearly six-year investigation. "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. But our understanding is she never showed up, and there was no spare set in the first place, so she had nothing to bring him! Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Just forget it. "But the arrest on two counts of murder is sure a major step in leading to a conclusion in the long-term and complex investigation.". How long did it take to get everyone together? This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. Travis Trexler, a cousin of alleged Snapchat catfish and child predator Kegan Kline, was arrested in Wabash County, Indiana, at the beginning of September on DUI charges, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal. The transcript shows that he also failed a polygraph test about his knowledge of the Delphi case, after which he returned home and deleted his Snapchat and Instagram accounts. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. He has the whole town on his friends list. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. For more information, please see our Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. Im almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. Thats one theory we are looking at. This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. A search party was formed and volunteers and police searched the wooded area surrounding the bridge until slightly after midnight when the search was called off. Well, to answer your question, Mr. X was at that 2019 press conference wearing the exact same hat that BG wears in that film. and our Hi Robert. She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. Great Summary! Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. 2023 CIRCLE CITY BROADCASTING I, LLC. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. "I dont feel like I thought I would. I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, whose bodies were found in 2017. Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, was involved in a domestic incident in June. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. "We now move forward through the Indiana criminal justice system allowing the system to provide its due diligence and process," Carroll County SheriffTobe Leazenbysaid at a press conference inside Delphi United Methodist Church. We have people in the police who talk to us. However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. I theorize that after release from prison he was itinerant and carried a gun for protection. The investigation is far from complete, Carter said new details and documents will not be released until deemed appropriate in the process. Delphi has a park dedicated to the teens, called the Abby and Libby Memorial Park, honoring their love for sports and the outdoors. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. Kline responded. The next chapter is now were on to the prosecution side, right? The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. In . The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone. Allen, who has entered a preliminary plea of not guilty, will appear in court on Jan. 13 for a pre-trial hearing. The search warrant request came just over two weeks after ISP investigators interviewed Kegan Kline, the man they say was behind the Anthony_Shots social media accounts. Very suspicious. DELPHI, Ind. " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". How do we help.". Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? To this day they haven't been found. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. "It would be great to finally get some justice for the girls. Mr. X? The Peru home he shared with his father, Tony Kline, was raided 12 days after Libby and Abby were found dead. Makes me wonder if LE did look at him at one point. The two SPMs both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene. Police announced on Monday that a suspect has been arrested in the killings of two teenagers that rocked a small town in Indiana more than five years ago. Was just thinking this!! I will have to look it up again. After the Leaker leak came out, I guess things hotted up and he moved to his other property in Monticello maybe to get out of the heat for a while. And the girls may well have been moved and put there late at night. Alt Left: Trotsky on Fascism: One of the Best Analyses of Fascism Ever Written, VIDEO: Danse Macabre! Non-uniform officers searched. The agent said Logan contacted his cousin and asked him to tell that story before the bodies were found. He boasts hed like to beat the guy up even if it means incarceration. Big Tweety bird eyes. allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams, Review the case through 5 years of reporting, Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in', Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Allen, who entered a preliminary plea of not guilty, was sent to the White County Jail without bond. DELPHI, Ind. Indiana State Police. Ive probably seen him. When the girls did not return to their rendezvous point, family called authorities and a search began. Five years after Liberty German and Abigail Williams were killed in Delphi, Indiana, 50-year-old Richard Allen has been charged with their murders. 4 min read. wishtv.com your home page, Business, Equity and Opportunities Podcast with Scott Sander, Myles Colvin captivates Heritage Christian crowds, preps for Purdue, Indiana wildlife expert on bald eagle killing: Its sad, IMPD policy on seized guns called into question, Indiana governor grants clemency to prisoner with inoperable brain tumor, 2 tornadoes confirmed in northern Hancock County. Of course he knew who they were. Which brings me to the question, why not donate to our enterprise here? A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . Ive seen some criticism of your stuffed bear theory, and I personally think its nuts, but if that image is realIf it is real, what do think the motive was? "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. Talk about the helpless, right? If I go with the assumption that it might have been a group of searchers that didn't include members of LE, I can't imagine being a member of the community and volunteering to help to search for anyone and then finding the person or persons deceased in probably what was an obvious sign of a homicide(s), especially as someone such as myself who has no LE experience (or medical experience, etc.) New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. He himself is then arrested for trying to rape/kill a nine year old. LE? Also close friends with Ron Logan and Tobe Lozenby! 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