GERMAN NMN SHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK SINGLE SHOT 9.3X48R GI#: 102141153 ID # 8341 Make GERMAN NMN Model SCHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK Configuration Single Shot Gauge / Caliber 9.3X48R Price $2,500. Those metric cartridges are worldwide favorites . The rifle looks like one of the "Ideal" actions that Axel has written extensively about. Unfortunately, this rifle lacked the rear sight. It's basically covered with hand carving and engraving. The overall length is approx. Fine blade front sight with traditional mid-barrel sight. Schuetzen is the sport of offhand rifle target shooting using antique or replica single-shot rifles. The only other information I got from the seller was that the rifle was given to him by a friend whose father supposedly took this (and others) from from a hunting lodge owned by Erwin Rommel, but there is no supporting evidence of that. Seems enough suggestions to me that I'd go .32-40. Please call or email us to place an order. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. The Eagle Target is fastened to the top of a pole 40 feet from the ground. The story I heard was that many of these were WWII bring-backs and often missing a part -- typically the rear aperture sight, but sometimes a key part in the firing mechanism to make the gun non-firing. There is the number 10010 visible on the barrel above the forend and there is the number 8298 stamped on the barrel underneath the forend. said to an enemy who asked him to surrender you may lick my ass meaning Im not at all interested in your opinion, proposal or order, I dont get nevious about some mistake. That position dictates a stock with a lot of drop and that is why all the German Schuetzen rifles have the "odd" looking stocks and also why you see the Peterson, Pope and Schoyen with similar shaped stocks. Springer Single shot on a Heeren type block action, high power 7 x 64, 24 1/4 Bohler Antnit steel 1/2 RD. One of the victims of this hate was the sport of "Schuetzen." Interpretation- No missing should make you nervious-think about the device of gtz von Berlichingen. It is the first on the market with full controls. Matches are held the 2nd Tuesday of each month, from May through September, from 3pm to close, on the west-half of the 100 yard range. The wood is pretty and well sh, 24 inch barrel and sling swivels. Last week my father gifted me some old family guns. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. In John Merzs hands, they do shoot well. There are only roughly 2500 Model 720 rifles total known to be manufactured between 1941 and 1944 with possibly only a few hundred in .270 W.C.F. Make sure you are in a safe shooting area with a suitable backstop. The rim has been reduced from the regular .30-30 size to .30-06 size to adapt it to the bolt action rifles originally made for this caliber. The word "Schuetzen" is German and in this application refers to a breech-loading, singleshot rifle using a cartridge case to contain the primer and powder charge with cast or swaged lead bullets. Has 7x42 wetzlar scope. These rifles were most often based on the falling block Martini system and, as can be seen with this example, great lengths were taken to achieve extreme accuracy. Is the load info on the side of the barrel more like a "the rifle is safe to shoot with that", or is it like "the rifle performs best with that" . Buy a schuetzen online Now! trigger guard &a, JOH. Blaser K95 single shot 6.5CM Jaeger with case. CMG West, LLC It appears I have this same rifle but only very minor engraving on the metal on mine. & D. Best quality side plate 9.3 x 74 R. High power big game cal. by Pisgah Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:49 pm, Post This Germanic Schuetzen (Target) Rifle is in 8.15 X 46R with a 28 " Barrel having an excellent bore. Try changing your search term. GUN COLLECTIONS WANTED FOR CAS, CONSIGNMENT USED VERY GOOD CONDITION MERKEL K-1S 7X57R SINGLE SHOT RIFLE -- 24" BARREL -- WALNUT STOCK WITH SWAROVSKI 3-10X42 HABICHT GERMAN #4 RECTICULE *** PRICENON NEGOT, Fascinating and rare sidelock gun in very shootable condition and presentable cosmetically. See more ideas about rifle targets, rifle, guns. Six-plus-one is the capacity in this compact ultra-lightweight semi-auto. The caliber as well as the maker is unknown to me (pic of the entire rifle is in. I do understand the words, but is that black powder or smokeless ? German Schuetzen rules prescribed the use of lead bullets, without any sort of jacket, all the time. The engraving is of the finest seen, Greener action and safety, Rear sight raised by tang, Wood very high grade, no cracks, ***Reduced *** Was 1895.00 Now $1795.00***Fredrich Langenhan "F.L. 24", overall 42 1/4". There are manual and self-loading (automatic, semi-automatic) types of repeating rifles. While not in the Hunting Gun vein of interest, I include them here as a way for others to enjoy them. Manufacturer: German. This rimmed oddball caliber proved popular as it was strictly a sporting round and allowed the Germans to produce these rifles, ammunition and components when they were sanctioned against producing military arms after World War I. Unusual calibers, 25" bbls under is chambered for Sauer rimmed ctg mfg by RWS, 20 pieces of brass and n, GERMAN DRILLING 16GA - 9.3X72R BACK ACTION HAMMER GUN, 95% KRUPP STEEL BARRELS, NICE BORES WITH A LITTLE PITTING TOWARD THE BACK, SILVER RECEIVER WITH SOME LIGHT SCROLL , GOOD SOLID WOOD, CHEC, "German Guild Schutzen 7.6mm caliber rifle. There is a German Rifle Society and are Schuetzen rifle groups out there as well. They are the first firearms in the industry to have a laser built into the gun, you cannot buy them without it. The range has a paved and covered firing point with 14 shooting benches. This organization is composed of German and American Riflemen. Required fields are marked *. See "Alte Scheibenwaffen" by Tom Rowe, Vol 2 . In the USA, the UK, Austria and Scandinavia, target shooting was very active, but based on the .22 rim fire cartridge. Californias confusing gun laws and firearm sales practices seem to make it difficult for most people to sell their old firearms in that state at times. It can cause extreme stress on the gun if fired with 2-3/4" shells in a 2-9/16" chamber. This magnificent rifle was made by Friedrick Muchler in Neuenrade, a town in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, probably late 1800's to early 1900's. It is a style knowns as a Schuetzen rifle,. I try to stop in once a week to see what new gems they have acquired and on a recent trip, I saw an old Schuetzen rifle. It is generally believed that the use of the bow and arrow date back to approximetely 50,000 B.C. Maker: Ideale Model: Schuetzen Caliber: 8.15mm Description: Serial #216, 8.15 x 46R, 29 1/2 octagon barrel with a fine, bright bore that has double-land rifling and some very mild freckling in the grooves. Blued fluted barrel with notched ramp front sight with rail at rear for added sight. A Schuetzen is a type of rifle used in European long-range competition. To activate, press the grey button. Driving directions are found elsewhere on this web-site. Below are more pictures off the rifle, which might help identifying the maker or the region it was made. Anyway the gun may have been converted to .22LR simply because the ammo was completely obsolete. As this is your first Schuetzen get a 32-40 there is a boatload of good information on shooting a 32-40. From. Available calibers include .22 Long Rifle, .25-20 Single Shot, .25-20 WCF, .25-21, 28-30 Stevens, .32-20 WCF or CPA, .32-40, .33-40, .38-55 and many others. A new schuetzen costs about the same with the Stevens 44-1/2 action made by CPA being the frontrunner both in 1900 and today. Still, for a student of firearms history, this represents an era that is a bit forgotten by most, yet important with regard to the development of modern marksmanship in a number of ways. The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. Unusual action with a left removable side plate. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. The more I read about the 32-20 CPA it seems to be a great caliber or terrible. All rights reserved. This German Schtzen rifle (probably built before 1914) on the German Martini action is chambered in 8.15x46R. by Old No7 Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:30 pm, Post Focus ring on scope is stuck. It is possibly chambered in 9.3x47R but a chamber cast would be needed to confirm. 1 and Mossberg SSi are also allowed. John you can also go with a 35% of the bp charge as maximum for 5744. SAUER & SON KIPPLAUF UNDER-LEVER SINGLE SHOT RIFLE 6.5X58R (.25-35), C Grundig 20ga/6.5x58R Combo Octagon SLNE Kahles, Merkel Model K1 Premium 300 Winchester Magnum, "German 8.15X46Rmm Schutzen Rifle by August Jung (R32656), SIMON HEIM ENGRAVED GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, C. Stiegele Martini German Schtzen Rifle, R . by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:48 pm, Post All rights reserved. Americans used the 32-40 and in Germany it was the aforementioned 8.15 X 46R.which is easily made from 30-30 brass. I have both the two prong butt plate an the single prong and much prefer the single prong. Please call or email us to place an order - we normally do not have Schuetzen rifles in stock. History: The round was introduced as the new military rifle cartridge in 1906. He was a very famous gunsmith of the time. Pull the trigger. 3) Schuetzen lever ( although I prefer the loop). Euopeans chamber the 16 ga 2-9/16". How does yours shoot, I would love to see one of the targets. Sorry that is the best photo I have at this time I inventoried my guns not to long ago and that's where the photo came from. Click here to see our First Half Hour - Shooting USA The North-South Skirmish Association, Discount Link -- Save $10 when you join the NRA. Home >> Browse All >> Search Results >> Login To Save This Search Limit to State: Local Listing Results Show All schuetzen For Sale Sorry, no results were found. When encountered today, his rifles often bear the crests of the European nobleman who had ordered the gun. Elongated prongs on the rifles butt plate work hand in hand with the unique palm rest to help competitors balance the rifle. 301/4 Octagon Barrel. Elegant, huntable, accurate - Blaser's K95 single shot rifle has proven itself in demanding hunting situatio, Schuetzen - Rifle, 8.15x46R. A SCHUETZEN RIFLE rifle is currently worth an average price of $1,032.73 used . Are you sure the chambers are 2-3/4". Standard barrel sizes are #2 (1.00"), #2 1/2 (1.03"), #3 (1 1/16"), #4 (1 1/8"), and #5 (1 3/16") in part octagon or round. Is this possible. Engraved by J. Kellerthaler. Original sights consist of a very delicate blade front sight, a fancy rear barrel sight and a unique tang sight. The buttstocks had an accentuated downward angle, or drop, that naturally positioned it to the shooter's arm. Sounds like a helluva start. The Ultimate Firearms Destination for the Gun Lifestyle, 2023 Recoil Magazine They were for amusement and not for showing shooting skill. Front sights are typically hooded, and a large rear diopter sight is used to act as a sunshade, blinder and to aid in precision shooting. by Pitchy Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 pm, Post Hunting Marksmanship never took on the social and political importance that the Schtzen movement did but was important and recognized by the organized hunting Associations. 1871 Mauser, and as stated by "sauerfan" is a blackpowder. All matching and original finish. It is too bad you are not in the Minneapolis area our club has USPSA and IDPA matchs plus a few Scheutzen guys who are willing to help. Calibers that I'm considering 32 Miller short, 32-20 CPA, and 32-40. check out the. This means if you come across one in the wild, there is a good chance that it will not fit you with regard to grip, length of pull, cheek rest configuration or even how the butt plate fits your shoulder. good up to 100yds match * 32-40 CPA with Fecker 12X scope - up to 200yd or meter match * 38-55 HiWall - good up to 300 yds Larry B. Schuknecht & Dutchman Wood Works, The 5.6x35R Vierling, 5.6x36R & .22 Hornet, 14.5x49R & 14.5x52R Dombrowski-Heissig Hochwildpatrone, H. Utendoerffer-RWS Catalog of Brass Cases, Die Schneckenbgel (The Snail Triggerguard), Veb Fahrzeug und Jagdwaffenwerk-Ernst Thlmann-Model 30,32 Drilling Instruction Book, Transitional Systems- Muzzle to Breech Loading, The Lefaucheux Guns and Pin Fire Ammunition, The Stutzen Rifles- Berg, Bolt, Feuer, Ischler and Pirsch, Miscellanious Advertisements for Austrian Makers, J. G. Anschutz 1937 Catalog nr. These have become world hunting cartridges. Price: $52.00 Remnents of a Poppenjay Bird Target from a 1914 shooting event. The Blued Metal and Chec, JJ Reeb combination gun in 16 gauge x 11.5 x 52R. Long-range target rifles became an art form for the Teutonic gunmaker. Records date it back more than 800 years, beginning with clubs to promote proficiency with bows and crossbows. The object of these competitions was not simply to hit the target but to break off a piece of it. Lot 1066: German Schuetzen Rifle 22Custom Bohlig & Esch Marked Falling Block Schuezten Rifle Auction Date: February 20, 2015. There are activation buttons on each side, so you lefties are covered. Schuetzen - German Martini Rifle, 7.7mm. 9) 1:14 ish twist. The following article written by Axel Eichendorff appeared in the Spring 2017 (issue #60) of the German Gun Collectors Association publication. Can't wait for you to get yours up and running. More photos of the action may give a hint to the maker. The stuck bullet is sown on the very right, it measures 5.52mm in diameter (before shooting it was 5.7mm) Next I tried a CCI .22 CB long (also 710 FPS), which also got stuck at about the same distance from the muzzle. The firearms used in this competition were referred to as Vogelbchse and are single shot long guns with a lage gauge bore, the 16 ga. being the most common. Overall, I'd say that the book is a useful reference is you look at this fine old rifle above and see it as the epitome of sharpshooting beauty. The rifle was proofed to fire the load shown, what it performs best with will be for you to determine by trying different makes/types. A front sight slot can be provided at no extra charge for 3/8" sights. Mine has K. Stiegele and if you hunt around you can find some interesting information on him. by 6pt-sika Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:37 pm, Post The first time I ever heard of Schuetzen rifles it was an old article in THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN where they were covering the matches put on by the Coors Company. It means " New Rifle Powder M/ 71`", with M/71 being the powder used in the "New" 11.15x60R cartridge for the Mod. Reloading the same case is usually performed on the bench, although many modern practitioners seem to use lots of their hand loaded ammunition these days. Your email address will not be published. In Germany riflemen shoot at a body 2 feet in diameter, and weigh the splinters. 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